tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14874528.post1536647626265817033..comments2024-03-27T13:32:06.780-02:30Comments on The Other Side of Eighty: The Smell of Fire - (Final Installment) Part SixWisewebwomanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15281689872840844191noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14874528.post-87000303763097875312015-12-13T17:56:25.788-03:302015-12-13T17:56:25.788-03:30Fabulous story! Fabulous story! Blondi Blathershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15656970490122824720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14874528.post-58552061730524871642011-07-23T02:39:46.004-02:302011-07-23T02:39:46.004-02:30T:
Oh very well said, I had forgotten this wonderf...T:<br />Oh very well said, I had forgotten this wonderful quote - I believe Charles Dickens quoted it also which is where I heard it first.<br />And perhaps what we write tis of fleas?<br />Fleablogs. Yes.<br />XO<br />WWWWisewebwomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15281689872840844191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14874528.post-72654744419078098512011-07-23T02:37:48.546-02:302011-07-23T02:37:48.546-02:30Nora:
thanks for the input, I truly believe that a...Nora:<br />thanks for the input, I truly believe that a writer can never spell everything out, the reader has to do some work!<br />Everyone on this earth has an agenda, that is a given, my friend!<br />XO<br />WWWWisewebwomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15281689872840844191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14874528.post-87472550498547888512011-07-22T13:20:12.136-02:302011-07-22T13:20:12.136-02:30WWW ~~~ an old saying/quote came to mind after rea...WWW ~~~ an old saying/quote came to mind after reading your comment<br /><br /><i><br />Great fleas have little fleas upon their backs to bite 'em, And little fleas have lesser fleas, and so ad infinitum. And the great fleas themselves, in turn, have greater fleas to go on; While these again have greater still, and greater still, and so on.<br />[1872 A. De morgan Budget of Paradoxes 377]<br /></i><br /><br />:-)Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14874528.post-29174556173308606292011-07-22T13:15:17.654-02:302011-07-22T13:15:17.654-02:30Do you mean that everyone had their own agenda and...Do you mean that everyone had their own agenda and their own needs and that they all used this opportunity to see them taken care off? <br /><br />If so, I think you need to be a little more explicit about that in the story so your readers won't have to have a dialogue with you. <br /><br />The story is very good and morals can be drawn from it, but they need to be a bit more clear. <br /><br />Good work, WWWIrenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05043376053971475659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14874528.post-31959766006588449842011-07-22T10:08:18.817-02:302011-07-22T10:08:18.817-02:30Jo:
Thanks for taking all the time to think about ...Jo:<br />Thanks for taking all the time to think about it. Your review is most helpful as you totally "get" what I was trying to do.<br />Emotional unavailability being a great part of it.<br />No one in the story is emotionally available to anyone else and the one who tries (the narrator) fails also.<br />I don't think the narrator is truly likeable either.<br />XO<br />WWWWisewebwomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15281689872840844191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14874528.post-26678524175348831402011-07-22T10:05:32.363-02:302011-07-22T10:05:32.363-02:30T & Nora:
Interesting that you both felt the n...T & Nora:<br />Interesting that you both felt the narrator was being used, for wasn't she also using? <br />The son (the pawn) came off the worst?<br />The narrator had success spun off in no small part by the mother?<br />The mother deflected the feelings of the narrator onto the son as she was incapable of feeling for anything/anyone, only her art.<br />I will work with it some more as it is only first draft.<br />XO<br />WWWWisewebwomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15281689872840844191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14874528.post-3129192951299331222011-07-22T09:58:46.898-02:302011-07-22T09:58:46.898-02:30Thank you all for your input, this is the first ti...Thank you all for your input, this is the first time I've posted a first draft of a story. I started thinking about Martha and her son one day and it evolved from there. <br />I was writing about contradictions and what we say/feel doesn't often match what we do. As in the fireman, and yes, he existed. <br /><br />If these people generated strong feelings, I am honoured as that is what a writer tries to do.<br /><br />XO<br />WWWWisewebwomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15281689872840844191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14874528.post-50646851525028653852011-07-22T07:43:45.255-02:302011-07-22T07:43:45.255-02:30I've been thinking about this story all day - ...I've been thinking about this story all day - there were so many contrasts and contradictions - the fact that he hated the fire (part 2), but his only passion was in quenching the fire of others (part 6); the no and yes as the mother being a meddler - a contradiction within itself; the fact that Rose was the "CFO of the marriage", but couldn't see the financial issues with her and her sisters going to Vegas (if it was preventing him from retiring, it would not have been a minor expense!)<br /><br />There's a lot of judgement and re-judgement (the mother is described as 'careless' before we know her, yet she takes so much care over everything), and I was certainly revising my opinion of everyone in the piece by the end of it!<br /><br />Certainly a story that bears rereading :-)Johttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17965300148218903639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14874528.post-13297340148966474992011-07-22T01:10:41.827-02:302011-07-22T01:10:41.827-02:30I would think that the narrator felt used, though ...I would think that the narrator felt used, though maybe not at the time the relationship was going on, but afterwards. I think she was disabused by the mother for the sake of the son, although the son did not play an innocent role in it either. I wonder how often they played this trick. I think the narrator is well off without these people in her life. Strike that one up to experience.Irenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05043376053971475659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14874528.post-33426892650462095672011-07-21T18:49:18.768-02:302011-07-21T18:49:18.768-02:30Thought provoking tale, WWW. I enjoyed it.
I can&...Thought provoking tale, WWW. I enjoyed it.<br /><br />I can't say I had a deal of sympathy for either the mother or the son, though I accept that I ought to have some, considering what she went through in her youth.<br /><br />I admired the narrator, yet felt she was being unfairly used by the mother - who I finished up disliking a lot. She took advantage of the narrator's loving feelings for her, not an admirable trait. <br /><br />But super story, super writing, WWW. Thank you.Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138621610593773784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14874528.post-68084273599666296402011-07-21T16:10:14.898-02:302011-07-21T16:10:14.898-02:30Nora:
What matters is what you think, reading what...Nora:<br />What matters is what you think, reading what others have written opens us up to other experiences/feelings/reactions. <br /><br />How do you think the narrator feels?<br /><br />XO<br />WWWWisewebwomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15281689872840844191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14874528.post-21505182547349444872011-07-21T13:11:00.657-02:302011-07-21T13:11:00.657-02:30I guess I was super critical and forgot to read th...I guess I was super critical and forgot to read the story for the sake of the story. The story itself was good and you see how it affected me. I took you very seriously. I cared too much about the narrator and how she came out of it, which was not too bad in the end after all. I do hate it when a woman is mistreated. Do you think the narrator felt abused?Irenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05043376053971475659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14874528.post-63606242063417027252011-07-21T11:43:22.626-02:302011-07-21T11:43:22.626-02:30Nora:
That's the interesting thing about reade...Nora:<br />That's the interesting thing about readers, we all take something different away, sometimes not remotely what the writer had in mind.<br />Marcia:<br />Thank you. I've written about this man before, he seems to encapsulate what I attract in the male.<br />Jo:<br />Thank you! <br />Nick:<br />I am so glad you picked that up! It is extraordinary how one passion can't seem to ignite any others in some. And it was reflected in the mother also.<br />GM:<br />It is odd that. I am sad but they are not at all. <br />XO<br />WWWWisewebwomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15281689872840844191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14874528.post-30315181196651521562011-07-21T11:09:53.146-02:302011-07-21T11:09:53.146-02:30You always manage an unexpected ending. This time ...You always manage an unexpected ending. This time a sad one.Grannymarhttp://grannymar.com/blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14874528.post-40003649081280650802011-07-21T09:36:21.282-02:302011-07-21T09:36:21.282-02:30A poignant contrast between the energetic, vibrant...A poignant contrast between the energetic, vibrant mother and the reserved, cautious son. Though there's an intriguing paradox that fire-fighting can often be quite tough and dangerous. And how depressingly predictable the events of Part Five. A very interesting story.nickhttp://nickhereandnow.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14874528.post-47398708868497138902011-07-21T07:55:46.517-02:302011-07-21T07:55:46.517-02:30What a great story! I've just gone back and r...What a great story! I've just gone back and re-read the lot in one go :-) So beautifully written - thank you.Johttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17965300148218903639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14874528.post-81308121693125844282011-07-21T06:43:17.624-02:302011-07-21T06:43:17.624-02:30I loved then ending. What a beautiful and sad sto...I loved then ending. What a beautiful and sad story.marciamayohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185069576683872041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14874528.post-72581684567553204122011-07-20T23:26:55.988-02:302011-07-20T23:26:55.988-02:30I guess you did your duty and got Martha's com...I guess you did your duty and got Martha's company out of the deal. You never did say if you loved him. <br /><br />He may have been a good firefighter, but he wasn't much of a man, was he? He didn't stick up for himself and let himself be handled by the women in his life. In the case of his wife, he let himself be mistreated and didn't have the guts to walk out, yet allowed his mother to arrange a deal for him that was satisfactory to them both. <br /><br />I'm sure he was aware of it and that was the reason he introduced you to her. I don't think he was as innocent as you make him sound. He had an agenda also. At the same time, he almost takes a backseat in this story, which is foremost about the women in his life.Irenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05043376053971475659noreply@blogger.com